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ALL SOULS COMMUNITY CHURCH OF WEST MICHIGAN
BOARD OF TRUSTEES SPECIAL MEETING WITH SITE COMMITTEE
October 8, 2004
Members present: Mike Arents, Gordon Arnold, John Belaski, Sue Belaski,
Dennis Benoit, Roger Gilles, David Maxam, Herman Sullivan, Jackie Vines, Ursula
Williams
Absent: Dan Schneider, Jen Schpiro, the Rev. Dr. Brent Smith
Site Committee Members present: Jock Ambrose, Chris Barfuss, Jim Leitch
- Opening Words
– None
Report from Site Committee
- Through a real estate contact arranged by ASCC friends Dee and Don
Stanger, the Site Committee has learned that Prince of Peace Lutheran
Church, 3050 Lake Michigan Drive, is available for purchase. The asking
price is $650,000 for a 10-acre parcel of land and the church itself.
The church is being dissolved, and the current members would like to see
this property remain a church. A lease arrangement may be possible, and
they are willing to offer a land contract sale.
- The Site Committee asked for the Board’s blessing in moving forward
with lease and/or land contract discussions.
- Some members of the Site Committee visited the site, along with
several Board members. Photographs taken during the visit were available
for the group’s inspection.
- Chris Barfuss provided site maps showing both the property and the
surrounding area. It was noted that the back of the property has
wetlands, and that a septic system is in place. Chris showed the group
nearest city sewer connections.
- John Belaski provided a breakdown of monthly expenses for utilities
and winter snow removal. The total monthly expenses including insurance
are $843, but this figure does not include telephone, yard work, or
maintenance/janitorial services.
- After extended discussion, the Board and Site Committee identified
five immediate tasks:
- John Belaski will continue talks with Prince of Peace and
attempt to arrange an Open House on October 24 so that the
ASCC congregation may visit the site.
- Dave Maxam will prepare "talking points" or a data sheet
to use in making a presentation to the congregation after the
worship service the next two Sundays, and Roger Gilles will
use it to write a blurb for the Weekly Expression.
- Herman Sullivan will create a display using the
photographs taken during the site visit so that the
congregation may get a look at the property over the next
three Sundays.
- Jackie Vines will assign ASCC member names to those
present to call about the October 24 Open House at Prince of
Peace.
- Dennis Benoit will establish a Building Fund/Capital
account, using Jock Ambrose’s 21 cents and subsequent group
donations as the opening deposit.
- Closing Words –
Mike Arents led the group in reciting the All
Souls Community Church covenant at 8:30 PM
NOTE: Additional notes from the meeting follow.
Respectfully submitted, Jackie Vines, Board Secretary, All Souls Community
Church of West Michigan
All Souls Community Church of West Michigan
evaluation of
Prince of Peace Lutheran Church
3020 Lake Michigan Drive Northwest
Grand Rapids
10/8/04
Background
All Souls Community Church’s Board of Trustees, following the direction
laid out in the community’s Strategic Plan, is exploring options for moving to
a full-time home. The dissolution of the Prince of Peace Lutheran Church
community at 3020 Lake Michigan Drive leaves a property that might be a good
fit for the congregation. Pros and Cons are listed below. The board’s Site
Committee has examined and photographed the property and explored purchase,
lease, land contract, and other options. Finances are the biggest hurdle. A
key learning to date is how far the congregation is from making a commitment
even if the perfect property were available immediately. We resolved to gauge
the community’s genuine interest in a new building by hosting an open house at
Prince of Peace on Oct. 24. Each member of the community will receive a
personal invitation from a BOT or Site Committee member to attend this open
house, which will give ASCC members a visceral connection to the benefits of a
full-time home. Then a straw poll of the congregation can be conducted to
determine how much money members are willing to contribute to a building
fund-raising campaign (in addition to the operating budget). That amount will
put us in a better position to negotiate for Prince of Peace or other property
in earnest. We may even choose to approach the current Prince of Peace
congregation (which wants the building to continue as a church), and offer a
monthly amount we can afford for however long the facility makes sense for All
Souls, under whatever terms are acceptable to the Prince of Peace
congregation.
Next Steps
John Belaski will schedule a congregational Open House for Oct. 24.
David Maxam will prepare talking points for Sunday announcements.
Herman Sullivan will prepare a posterboard of property pictures.
Roger Gilles will write an announcement for the Weekly Expression.
Jackie Vines will assign ASCC member contact names and phone numbers to
BOT members and Site Committee members, who will make calls to members
explaining the opportunity and inviting members to the open house.
Dennis Benoit will open a Building Fund with Jock Ambrose’s 21 cents and
the multi-matching funds collected at the Oct. 8, 2004 meeting.
| Pro |
Con |
- Available almost immediately.
- Accessible by nearby expressway.
- In Grand Rapids.
- Great-looking, flexible and functional RE space (good for attraction
and retention).
- Good parking.
- Good playground space.
- 24/7 availability for church activities.
- Good visibility along the "academic corridor" on the way to GVSU
(good for recruiting).
- Tasteful sanctuary.
- Expandable sanctuary (short-term via windows opening to Social Hall,
long-term via new construction).
- Fairly nice Social Hall.
- Readily/inexpensively available furnishings, organ, choir robes,
etc.
- Nice minister’s and receptionist’s offices.
- 10-acre site may have resale/redevelopment opportunities.
- Current congregation wants property to remain a church and is
willing to negotiate land contract or other terms.
- UUA loan support a possibility.
- Residential zoning.
- Current relationship and rental terms with Aquinas Jarecki Center
may be tenuous (need to check out).
- Successful occupation of the property strengthens called minister
proposal.
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- Current ASCC budget cannot afford $650,000 price tag (mortgage plus
maintenance estimated at $4,800/month, more than 10 times our current
monthly expenditure).
- Sanctuary holds only 130, offering no elbow room for growth. (Two
Sunday worship services could be offered; however, this could strain our
fledgling congregation’s growing community spirit).
- Building exterior is unattractive, not spiritually uplifting or
architecturally appealing.
- Cheap slab construction, leaky roof, and vinyl siding equal lots of
possibly expensive maintenance and upkeep.
- Sloping hole of a site.
- Modest kitchen.
- Enough bathrooms?
- No sanitary sewer (septic tank)
- Standing water (wetland?)
- Question about the neighborhood: could growth of congregation come
from that area?
- Property needs a lot of TLC.
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